why anime fan?

waz wrote:bleach fan here!!!!

@ bbzush,
darker than black -> nice, where u getting the free downloads from?

mai hime -> hmmm, loads of fanservice in this one! r u sure u should be watching?

waz wrote:recommend ->
naruto, naruto shippudden, bleach, death note, avatar: the last air bender (not an anime per se), devil may cry, ergo proxy, blood+, full metal alchemist, .hack//roots, .hack//signs, noir, neon genesis evangelion, lain, vision of escaflowne.

bbZuSh wrote:Now I like this =) Paski zt pa kuyon, ek ena buku
realiT hidden and it's just too good :-) Aprane buku zafer ek sa

Yan wrote:
Moi mo pense dimounes guet sa parski li simplement entertaining. Moi mo guet anime parski mo truv li nissa. Aster si zot envi aprane kitsoz dan animes, mo pa kroir zot pu apran gran zafer apart shinigami, tousa... Si zot envi aprane kitsoz, vo mieux zot guet discovery channel ou bien MCA programme lor MBC 3 ou soit 1 documentaire.

bbZuSh wrote:Learn some Jap words, dans FMA, ena ene ta zafer chimi. Lerla em m ti conner diamond ena mm structure ki carbon. Things kumsa to aprane.

Anime: esoteric or entertainment?


There has been contentious debate over the educational value of anime
in my school and home, and I have been challenged by a teacher to prove
it's worth as a genre to be acknowledged as having any educational
value, whatever it teaches us. Are we simply wasting time on our Anime
marathons, watching for 5 hours (sometimes more) or actually gaining
insight into a culture, and society?

Take, for example Naruto.
The themes of loyalty, friendship and good verus evil are all well and
good, very generic and universal, but what makes it such an interesting
text to deconstruct is it's general appeal, not just to a young
audience, but to that of any age. There is a general misconception in
western literature and pop culture that cartoons are merely for
children, but that is not exactly true, even in western cultures.
Family Guy and the Simpsons just to name two deal with mature themes,
often satirising the absurity and stupidity of our lives. Homer is the
ultimate symbol of overweight America, and we see that the anitcs of
the family often poke fun at celebrities, such as the 'Mel Gibson'
episode, and make various references to pop culture as well.

So,
how can Anime draw parallels to western cartoons? It is challenging,
granted, but we have to understand that todays pop culture and 'low
entertainment' could most definately become the next canon. The anime
art form is already a well established art form, but again, critics
such as my creative arts co-ordinator find it too simple and generic,
hard to tell individually charecters because they are all charecterised
by the same features, big eyes, small noses and little detail, compared
to the western works which emphasise attention to detail and anatomical
correctedness. Perhaps the fact that quality Manga and Anime can be
created week after week can actually compete with the high quality
graphic novels that sit side by side on my bookshelf.

So
please, add to this. Does anime or manga have any educational value
whatsoever? A bunch of mindless comics and cartoons simply for a few
minuites of escapism, or actually worthy to deconstruct and examine?

Yan wrote:

bbZuSh wrote:Learn some Jap words, dans FMA, ena ene ta zafer chimi. Lerla em m ti conner diamond ena mm structure ki carbon. Things kumsa to aprane.

Diamond pena mem structure ki carbon. Diamond li former a partir carbon pareil kouma graphite. c zis ki arrangement of carbons dan diamond li pa pareil kouma graphite. C poukoi zot physical properties differents.

FMA fiction net sa... Alchemy pas existe en realite.. Enfin ziska ler non.

Si vraimem to envi apprane kitsoz dan anime, plito to guet Detective Conan (Facts) ou soit GTO (About life stuffs, etc...).

Oci anime pa vrai facon pu aprane japanese. Apart Baka, Arigato, etc... mo pa croire 1 dimoune ki guet anime pu kav fer 1 conversation r 1 japonais. One site which I found very useful to learn japanese or any other language is http://www.mangolanguages.com/.

Here is a great post I found on the educational value of anime but which was not continued.

http://boards.fansub.tv/?showtopic=5794

Anime: esoteric or entertainment?


There has been contentious debate over the educational value of anime
in my school and home, and I have been challenged by a teacher to prove
it's worth as a genre to be acknowledged as having any educational
value, whatever it teaches us. Are we simply wasting time on our Anime
marathons, watching for 5 hours (sometimes more) or actually gaining
insight into a culture, and society?

Take, for example Naruto.
The themes of loyalty, friendship and good verus evil are all well and
good, very generic and universal, but what makes it such an interesting
text to deconstruct is it's general appeal, not just to a young
audience, but to that of any age. There is a general misconception in
western literature and pop culture that cartoons are merely for
children, but that is not exactly true, even in western cultures.
Family Guy and the Simpsons just to name two deal with mature themes,
often satirising the absurity and stupidity of our lives. Homer is the
ultimate symbol of overweight America, and we see that the anitcs of
the family often poke fun at celebrities, such as the 'Mel Gibson'
episode, and make various references to pop culture as well.

So,
how can Anime draw parallels to western cartoons? It is challenging,
granted, but we have to understand that todays pop culture and 'low
entertainment' could most definately become the next canon. The anime
art form is already a well established art form, but again, critics
such as my creative arts co-ordinator find it too simple and generic,
hard to tell individually charecters because they are all charecterised
by the same features, big eyes, small noses and little detail, compared
to the western works which emphasise attention to detail and anatomical
correctedness. Perhaps the fact that quality Manga and Anime can be
created week after week can actually compete with the high quality
graphic novels that sit side by side on my bookshelf.

So
please, add to this. Does anime or manga have any educational value
whatsoever? A bunch of mindless comics and cartoons simply for a few
minuites of escapism, or actually worthy to deconstruct and examine?